NATALIE GALLAGHER

In this issue, we spoke with Anu Yadav, a D.C.-based actress, writer, and theatre-based educator. Her work focuses on stories connected to social justice, and often takes the form of touring solo performer shows. We talked with her about the role of theatre in society as well as themes of displacement and transition.
Hi Anu, thanks for making the time to do this interview!
Can you tell the readers a little about yourself?
Anu Yadav
I identify as an actress, a playwright, and what I call a theatre-based educator. Which basically means using aspects of theatre as a form of community-building thatâs connected to activism and bring[ing] people together in different spaces that arenât within the walls of a theater.
I kind of came to theatre as an actor, but I would see stories or see theatre and wondered, âWhere is a place for me in that?â I started to develop this consciousness of â rather than thinking there was something wrong with me â maybe there was a challenge or a problem with the limited notions of who gets their story told and who gets to act [out] these stories.
When you say âa place for me,â are you talking about that in terms of demographic representation, or specifically the kinds of stories you want to tell, or both?
Anu Yadav
It’s a mixture of both. I think when I didn’t see people that looked like me doing something, it was hard to think that thatâs something that I could do. Also, the kinds of stories that I had access to seeing as theatre were stories that I didn’t necessarily personally relate to, or weren’t my life experience, or I couldn’t empathize with.
I didnât even really identify as an artist until I went to a storytelling workshop at the Asian Arts Initiative. It was about encouraging people to develop and use their own writing about their own lives and experiences as a way to put together a short performance [and it] started me on this quest. I got really interested in the idea of political performance, the act of writing yourself into the world, [and] acknowledging your experiences. If thereâs a democracy of story â if there are more and more different peopleâs stories â then we can kind of understand something bigger about what it means to be on this planet together.
If it feels like there are themes that come up repeatedly in your work, what are they?
Anu Yadav
A lot of questions come up around identity, migration, belonging, a sense of home, and, in particular, questions of poverty or inequity â wealth inequity â and [looking] at lines around race and class.
The first play that I wrote was called âCapers, and it was based on the stories of public housing residents that were protesting the demolition of their neighborhood in Southeast D.C. in a public housing project called Arthur Capper/Carrollsburg. That grew out of a set of relationships with people in a community that was organizing on its own behalf.

The Arthur Capper Carrollsburg Projects in 2004 | Source: Elvert Barnes/Flickr (CC-BY-2.0)
How do you go about balancing the needs and desires of the community that youâre (in some sense) representing, and the needs and desires of a production?
Anu Yadav
Originally I knew I wanted to write a solo show about something. Kind of separately, I got involved in the organizing effort, and then started to teach theatre [with young people] at the recreation center and eventually, a group formed and we started working on political theatre. At one point, they got together  [and created] this song and short play, and we were going to take it to one of the community meetings, where the director of the public housing authority was talking. We werenât allowed in the building, and we were locked out, and some of the adults that were managing the meeting were making threats to the young people about arresting them. All of a sudden, I became an obstacle to them [when I said we shouldnât do it]. They still wanted to. Once that fell apart, it was very defeating, for them and for me.
I was left with these pieces of really amazing things â so I thought, âIâll do interviews. Iâll just write it, Iâll act in it, and Iâll mix up all the interviews into different characters so thereâs no one person that itâs connected to.â Then I had an advisory group [of] three or four folks. I started adding different things â looking at drug addiction and welfare â and they were very concerned. I was like, âLet me read the draft for you. Then if you donât like it, Iâm not putting it in.â These relationships really have to matter more than the artwork. So, I read the draft and [the advisory board] said, âThatâs the best version that weâve seen of this play,â and supported it.
Talkback following a performance of ‘Capers | Source: qosmic_qadance/Instagram
I stopped performing [âCapers] because Iâm not from this community; Iâm not black, Iâm not from D.C., and I felt like I needed to think more about my own stories from my own heritage and where Iâm from, and really take a moment to take stock and reflect â to interrogate myself a little bit. So thatâs what spawned Meenaâs Dream, which was a fictional story of a young Indian-heritage girl in the U.S. and her dreams. Itâs inspired by my life, but it also gave me â because itâs fictional â a little more room to play.
What was really interesting about doing âCapers was that I basically interviewed people about being forcibly removed from their homes. And then, I experienced displacement myself. So I feel like having my own kind of sense of class identity be interrupted, and really realizing [that] I am low-income â that was really a great personal revelation. If I am part of a movement to end poverty, thatâs led by the poor, Iâm one of them. It was both devastating and incredibly uplifting to realize, in this moment of crisis, that the richness I had was in my community and in the relationships that Iâve built.
Can you tell me whatâs happening in that neighborhood [which inspired ‘Capers]Â now?
They kicked everybody out; they tore it down. The seniors that were in senior housing, they fought and worked hardcore, and the housing authority built a senior building. Then [the housing authority] removed people in three different phases. The project slowed, and it was taking a long time. So some people just moved. There was a lot of displacement, and there were a lot of conditions for coming back. Now, itâs a âmixed incomeâ neighborhood, and it allowed them [the authority] to cherry pick who they wanted back. Now, even that community is facing another level of development, which will disrupt [the rest of the neighborhood]. Theyâre starting to have meetings now, and theyâre looking in some ways to the people who have been here the longest, who are like, âYeah, this happened before.â
You mentioned Meenaâs Dream, and [Iâm wondering] how you think about Meenaâs as it relates to transition, or life change.
Anu Yadav
Meenaâs Dream is primarily the story of a young girl who confronts capitalism: âMy mother does not have the money for medicine that she needs to survive, and I demand that she has this medicine.â This idea that, regardless of what we can afford within our economic system, everyone has basic human rights to be able to live.
It was another way for me to look at poverty. Over the last [several] years, I [have been] realizing that [in my childhood] when my father died we were poor. My mom was a single mom then, with me and my brother. She was working the night shift at Burger King, going to community college; you know, hustling and doing whatever she could so that we could live. I think I was trained to see these things as something other people were going through and not really [as] a way to frame my own experience.

World Premiere of Meena’s Dream at Forum Theatre in D.C., January 2014 | Source: © Anu Yadav
It was a way to talk about how we use dreams and our imagination, which I did as a kid, to cope with things that were hard, to maybe escape things that were hard, [and] to remember ourselves in this bigger way.The ‘worry machine’ [in the play] is this fantastical, imaginary entity that is going to take over the world. When I was experiencing economic crisis a few years ago, I was thinking a lot about how, when you are in a state of crisis, objectively â say you donât have health care or housing or a job â it makes sense that youâd be terrified out of your mind. When youâre terrified, itâs really hard to think and itâs easy to feel really alone. Iâm creating this worry machine because I need to remember that my fears are something outside of myself. There are a lot of things that are involved in how and when fear shows up. I guess I just wanted to write a story where people who are experiencing some form of poverty or healthcare crisis or housing challenge could have a reminder that âyou are not at fault for the conditions youâre struggling in.â I just wanted to address that â that there is nothing wrong with us. There is a system that needs to be changed.
Excerpt from Meena’s Dream: “How to Avoid Bullies” by Anu Yadav | Source: Anu Yadav/YouTube
Rather than read a political treatise, why not have the story of a young girl, whoâs like, âI have these dreams and I have these nightmares, and I just want my mom to be OK.â Everybody can relate to that. I feel at the end of the day, thatâs what I want my art to do, and I donât know that I always succeed, but I want my art to cut across these deep divisions in our society, because we have so much more in common. There are so many people struggling with the same things.
Iâm wondering about doing traveling shows specifically, as Meena’s Dream was a traveling show.
Is that something you do because logistically it makes more sense for you? Or is it like that is an intentional part of the process you go through when you are going to create a piece?
Anu Yadav
Travelling with [Meena’s Dream] allows for it to be not just [for a theatre audience] but going to different communities within D.C. who wouldnât have seen it otherwise, and the kinds of conversations that can come about are just incredibly rich. Because youâre reaching different people, youâre getting different perspectives. And then, being able to travel the show to other places in the country has been â that and ‘Capers, actually â really amazing and affirming, to be honest.
I once did Meenaâs Dream in Stockton, California. Stockton was [once] listed by Forbes as the worst place to live. First, it was hit hard [by the 2008 economic crash], and Forbes decided a couple years later to say, âOh, itâs the worst city.â There are a lot of folks that have experienced hardships that are very similar to what Meenaâs Dream is addressing. I performed the piece to a very diverse audience of students at this community college â Delta College â and it was a beautiful conversation. I donât want to romanticize any place for sure, but I just remember the kind of connections that I felt people were making to the play and how they spoke about it in the talkback as well, and the generosity, I felt, was very much connected to the kinds of hardships that this community has experienced. The kind of compassion that youâre forced to remember in yourself.
Source: © South Asian Arts Society/Instagram
Then, I did âCapers in Detroit. It was a small audience in the offices of the Michigan Welfare Rights Organization. Theyâre currently going through a lot of challenges around water and who has access to it, this basic right. I remember performing this show, and the brilliance and the understanding people had about how it connected to their own lives. The political education of the folks in the room, most of whom were mothers and grandmothers on welfare, was humbling. [It] reminded me of how the wealth of knowledge in communities that are directly facing all these issues around poverty, is huge â if that was what was leading policy, the world would be transformed.
Thatâs all the questions I had for you â if there are any last things youâd like to say, Iâm more than happy to hear!
Anu Yadav
I guess the last thing Iâll say is, Iâm working on a piece called Ism: A Tragicomedy. It started out from a lot of my own anger at racism that Iâve experienced or other actors of color I know have experienced, and putting that into a play. Right now, Iâm just noticing â with different communities of color Iâm connected to and myself â a lot of anger. I guess Iâm just left with the question of how can working and doing artwork on this divide of racism be something that is healing and compassionate for everyone.
I’d love to see it. Thank you so much for your time!
Editor’s Note: Anu has previously employed Natalie as a scenic designer and scenic painter for Meenaâs Dream.
Anu Yadav
She is a critically acclaimed actress, playwright, and educator. She tours her solo plays âCapers and Meenaâs Dream, and created Classlines, a storytelling project on wealth and poverty. As an actress, she performed notably with the Shakespeare Theatre Company, Studio Safdar in Delhi, and Beijingâs National Academy of Dramatic Arts. As a theatre educator, she has taught at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University, University of Maryland at College Park, The Smithsonianâs Discovery Theater, Young Playwrightsâ Theatre, Capital Fringe Festival, Sasha Bruce Youth Work. Her work was featured in the documentaries Walk with Me and Chocolate City, as well as The Washington Post, The Crisis, MTV, WAMU-FM, among other media outlets. She was a 2016 D.C. Artist Fellow, Opportunity Agenda Creative Change Fellow, NET Travel grant recipient, a graduate of Bryn Mawr College and holds an M.F.A. in Performance from University of Maryland, College Park. She consults with arts and non-arts organizations on how to utilize arts-based methods in strategic development, leadership and community-building. Her play The Princess and the Pauper THE PRINCESS AND THE PAUPER will be produced at childrenâs theater Imagination Stage in February 2018. She is currently developing newest play called Ism: A Tragicomedy, about racism, sexism, economic crisis and body hair.


